tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post1482950227624185552..comments2023-10-02T01:53:29.451-06:00Comments on Naval Air Cowman: The first principle, againPrairieAdventurehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-38819722289441338142017-03-24T23:22:37.588-06:002017-03-24T23:22:37.588-06:00Yes, but you do some darn fine riffing, thinks I.
...Yes, but you do some darn fine riffing, thinks I.<br /><br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-25132685125701754402017-03-24T17:26:18.380-06:002017-03-24T17:26:18.380-06:00Thanks Paul but I'm just riffing on the fundam...Thanks Paul but I'm just riffing on the fundamental work done by countless forebears. Shouting from the shoulders of giants, as it were.PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-71576730252330297512017-03-24T17:24:40.105-06:002017-03-24T17:24:40.105-06:00Doesn't really matter what label is used; cons...Doesn't really matter what label is used; conservative, liberal, progressive. They're all open to interpretation (300 million plus interpretations) and so say nothing. Just noise. Er. Um. Ahem. The results are people talking past each other, which further serves to divide.<br /><br />When I talk to individuals about principles and ideas we're often strongly in accord. There are people who really do want your stuff and to have you punished or confined or gassed, but they are exceptions.<br /><br />I might be weak minded or something but I can't make any sense out of assigning individual sovereign citizens to one of two or five or a dozen labeled groups. I know how it happens because I've done it time and time again and will almost certainly do so many times in the future. But it still doesn't make sense.PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-82717288729078762832017-03-24T14:46:52.755-06:002017-03-24T14:46:52.755-06:00StB:
I am with you in not being either Republican...StB:<br /><br />I am with you in not being either Republican nor Democrat. Thank you for a cogent comment.<br /><br />Paul L. QuandtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-59548084833068440162017-03-24T14:43:29.082-06:002017-03-24T14:43:29.082-06:00You have an outstanding way of presenting issues. ...You have an outstanding way of presenting issues. To me, it seems as though you reach through to the heart of an issue and then present clear and concise thoughts. Thank you for another superb post.<br /><br />Paul L. QuandtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-38735401705189958882017-03-24T14:07:00.262-06:002017-03-24T14:07:00.262-06:00I do not put Republicans and Conservatives in the ...I do not put Republicans and Conservatives in the same category. The Republicans bear a huge load of guilt in not doing anything to stop what has been going on. To me, a Conservative is someone who wants to run the countries affairs in a manner aligned with the Constitution. This no longer applies to the vast majority of Republicans at the leadership level. To want the status quo is not conservatism, it is entropy.<br /><br />The people who first came together as progressives were not Democrats, they were Republicans like TR, and Wisconsin's Bob La Follette. The current Progressives have only the name in common with the originals. <br /><br />I myself am neither Republican, nor Democrat, and I say a curse upon both houses.SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-11087079843170253672017-03-24T12:56:45.879-06:002017-03-24T12:56:45.879-06:00And here's where I despise labels. By definiti...And here's where I despise labels. By definition conservatives want to maintain the status quo. So how did republicans become conservative? The status quo was slavery, and the republicans smashed slavery.<br /><br />But how did the democrats become progressives? They wanted to protect the common man who just wants to get on with his life against an oppressive state.<br /><br />There aren't two sides in this country. There are 300 million and change sides. It's fine to group together for elections and such, but without the thoughtful exercise individual sovereignty the groups become tribes hell bent on domination. And that smashes the First Principle.<br /><br />I was talking to a youngster (25 or so) yesterday about house and senate passing bills to repeal a law which required communications providers to gain the user's permission before selling their personal data (browsing history, etc.). That's what the republiboobs did, on a straight party line vote. They got rid of that simple, sensible requirement that providers must treat customers as sovereign citizens, rather than as objects to be used. I told the kid that I trust demoncrats a lot more than I trust republiboobs, because you can trust demoncrats to be honest in their lies.<br /><br />People who lie, cheat and steal infest both of these parties. In this era the one thing both parties have in common is the lust to exercise power and control over other people. This smashes the First Principle.<br /><br />Doesn't mean that all proud party members are bad, just that people with demonstratively bad behavior are in power in each party.<br /><br />On a positive note, I take solace in the fact that Obama and the demoncrats were unable to destroy the republic. I hope this will be the case for trump and the republiboobs. But we are still in mortal peril. What we don't need is for a republiboob government to take charge and fix everything. What we do need is for Americans, especially those who are utterly convinced of their righteousness, to step back and honestly and objectively assess whether they believe in the First Principle. And then behave accordingly.<br /><br />Somebody (John G Hemry, USN RET) told me a long time ago that most people think of the government as a giant mind controlling many hands. But what it really is is many minds trying to control a giant hand. If the 300 million plus minds get too far removed from the First Principle the giant hand begins to flail about, indiscriminately smashing people, places and things.<br /><br />So I say, #FiretruckLabels #FiretruckSides #FirstPrinciple #MakeAmericaAmericaAgainPrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-77434909600745258052017-03-24T11:34:26.707-06:002017-03-24T11:34:26.707-06:00In this era, Evil has a much easier time organizin...In this era, Evil has a much easier time organizing itself. They use arguments that sound so persuasive, but if carried to the ends that it would lead to, will destroy the civilization that we have built. We must not harm those who are innocent, that is not the Conservative way, as we are the only ones now who play by the rules we set up to live by, in 1787. That is the biggest difference the outlook of Conservatives, and the Statists. Conservatives basically want to be left alone, to get on with their lives, while Statists want all power in the hands of the State, whether a Sharia state, or a Socialist state. <br /><br />We, as Conservatives, need to point out the evil that is being fostered by the Statists, as we must convince people that the rule of law, as set out in the Constitution, is far superior to the rule of man, which is run on emotions, and leads to destruction. You are doing your part, Shaun, and Chris, subtly, which is the best way, as subtle gets past knee jerk resistance. SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-88232937414603853602017-03-24T09:46:32.526-06:002017-03-24T09:46:32.526-06:00You're precisely correct Sarge. Unfortunately ...You're precisely correct Sarge. Unfortunately a great many people use "it's nothing new" as an excuse, and hurry to justify their idle irresponsibility by appending, "an' besides, this one time at band camp..." It's an excuse as old as mankind. Wasn't valid then, isn't valid now.PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-771208131691936867.post-90268376217672410192017-03-24T09:21:59.516-06:002017-03-24T09:21:59.516-06:00Well said Shaun.
The courage of the lady (and she...Well said Shaun.<br /><br />The courage of the lady (and she most assuredly IS a lady) is self-evident.<br /><br />However, in your next to last paragraph you imply that this "thinking of and treating others as a means to an end," is something new. Well, it's been around since the country was founded. I think the real problem is that too many citizens are ignoring their duties as citizens.<br /><br />"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."<br /><br />Too many at this stage in our history are indeed, doing nothing.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.com